When you’ve advised five presidents, you have quite a few stories to tell.
Mathews Phosa, a seasoned politician, lawyer and business leader who has lived by the command of “thou shalt not steal” throughout his career has overcome adversity and shown a commitment to servant leadership, performing his duties without fear or favour.
In this Business Unusual Podcast Mathews joins Ralf Fletcher to reflect on an eventful career in politics which saw him play a key role in the Codesa negotiations, serve as Premier of the Mpumalanga province, and advise all five of South Africa’s democratically elected presidents.
He explains how his family’s history of servant leadership influenced his career in politics, why he thinks ethics and integrity are so important and touches on his relationship with former Presidents Mandela and Mbeki.
- How he convinced Jacob Zuma to resign for the good of the country
- The story of the accident which left his femur broken in 52 places
- How to negotiate: From high stakes transitions to everyday dealmaking
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